December 31, 2015

Batik: Pattern vs. Technique

As the title of this post already points out their is a 'pattern vs. technique' debate going on. Or at least when I talk about Batik I noticed that there is a lot of confusion on what is Batik. Is it the technique or the pattern that defines it? And why is there a difference between the two?
When you share your fascination, people will share their interpretation of that fascination with you. It can be educational, confronting and even laughable and it will show you what needs to improve, in your way of sharing or in what you share to make your fascination come across.
The number of times people ask me if I make Mandala's when explaining my work, is equal to the response "Do you make Batik?" to my "I study Batik". When I then reply "No, I don't make Batik, I study the philosophy of Batik", people don't understand why. In their eyes it's a simple technique they practiced themselves when they were younger. The strange and funny thing is, all Dutch people that lived through the Seventies are Batik makers! No really! At least you almost start believing that when sharing your fascination for Batik. But dear people, what you were making in the Seventies was not Batik, yes the technique was similar, applying hot wax to a cloth to make different layers of colour, but it is not Batik! 
But what is Batik then? Well, that's why I'm starting with this post, in which I surely can not explain the complex duality between technique and patterns in Batik, but I will make a start. 
Last week an almost-cry-for-help came from Indonesia with the title 'Indonesia tries to hang onto traditional art of batik'. After being selected as UNESCO heritage in 2009, Batik started as what seemed as a flourishing uprise. But now only 6 years later Batik is still under pressure. New Batik makers are hard to find, the wages are to little to make a decent living, printed cloths flood the market and tourist & locals all keep buying the fake Batiks, because they can't tell the difference. The same problems that made Batik an almost disappeared tradition when I visited Java in 2009. My book 'Batik, a forgotten industry' about this journey is unfortunately still very up to date. Of course, just like the ones I describe in my book, some Batik makers keep on going and try to work with natural dye and re-inventing traditional patterns, but it is not enough. 
Okay, we know the problems, but how to fix them? The government of Indonesia already made a smart choice by getting Batik on the Representative List of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity of UNESCO. But what is protected and how can you protect it? 
I get angry at people who don't know what real Batik is, or businesses that sell printed Batik while marketing they want to protect and preserve Batik. Well, by not selling or buying Batik Tulis, you will not protect or preserve it! But I hadn't read the actual document either and when Renske Heringa pointed out to me: how do they know what to protect if they haven't even informed themselves? I knew there is still a lot of work to be done.
So let's start, what is the heritage everyone celebrates since 2 October 2009:
The techniques, symbolism and culture surrounding hand-dyed cotton and silk garments known as Indonesian Batik permeate the lives of Indonesians from beginning to end(....)Batik is dyed by proud craftspeople who draw designs on fabric using dots and lines of hot wax, which resists vegetable and other dyes and therefore allows the artisan to colour selectively by soaking the cloth in one colour, removing the wax with boiling water and repeating if multiple colours are desired(....)The wide diversity of patterns reflects a variety of influences, ranging from Arabic calligraphy, European bouquets and Chinese phoenixes to Japanese cherry blossoms and Indian or Persian peacocks. Often handed down within families for generations, the craft of batik is intertwined with the cultural identity of the Indonesian people and, through the symbolic meanings of its colours and designs, expresses their creativity and spirituality.(...)
Okay, and an even shorter version, it is a technique that allows you to make patterns on textiles which can be worn during special occasions. 
But when you don't know what the technique is, how it works, what it looks like, what the patterns or colours look like and when, how or what for it can be worn, you will not know what Batik is.
Okay, but do we all have to study Batik to know Batik? Well, I don't know. I've been writing, sharing, talking Batik for 6 years now, but when I got a fake printed Batik this year as a gift, my heart broke a little. This Batik was bought on Bali in a batik workshop. The tourists get a tour of the factory with real people making real Batik Tulis and then they sell them printed Batiks as Batik Tulis. How can this be possible? Maybe all our wooden shoes are machine made as well nowadays, so I'm in no position to write about this, but... Why go through the effort of making something a heritage if you are still going to lose it?

Next year will be all about Batik for me! Starting with a visit to Galerie Smend in Köln (Germany) and hopefully making a great project on Java by end of the year. So hope to see you on my journey to Batik in 2016 and wish you a happy New Year!

Do you see the difference? Front and back of Batik Tulis (my own design from Jeruk), Batik Cap (this brand is for sale at Dierenpark Taman Indonesia), handstamped cloth from Staphorst (NL), Wax print from Vlisco, Wax print from Julius Holland Wax, Java Print from Vlisco, two Batiks motive printed cloths

No this is not Batik! Books & tools from the Seventies to make 'Batik' on Batiks motive printed cloths

Canting pens on Batik Tulis, with these kind of tools a very well trained Batik maker can make a traditional Batik Tulis, like the Batik Tulis (my own design from Jeruk) in the photo

Natural Dye on a chemical dyed Batik Cap, starting at the top moving clockwise: Lerak, Jelawe, Tegeran (yellow) and Tinggi (brown)

Read more on:
- the Representative List of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity of UNESCO: Batik
- Previous post on how to buy real batik 'The real deal'

December 11, 2015

New stuff, cheap stuff, mass production stuff & thrown away stuff

Trying for some days now to write a post about the sudden trend in showing colonial goods. In a row, first last years 'Asian Art and Dutch Taste' at Gemeentemuseum Den Haag, now in Rijksmuseum 'Asia>Amsterdam', at V&A 'Fabric of India', at Volkenkunde Museum an exhibition about the Peranakan culture in Indonesia and the 'Levez l'encre !' exhibition at the Museum Royal De Mariemont were they show the cargo of a sunken trading ship found in 2004 of the coast of Java (from before our colonial presence in Indonesia, but about trading routes) and the upcoming 'Catwalk' in Rijks about Dutch fashion from 1625 till 1960.
I'm exited by this trend, but I can't figure out if it is good (making more people aware of our colonial past is good, but when it is focussed on stuff..) or bad (only stuff, not the suffering). So I can't write about it yet, I do try to visit as many of the exhibitions mentioned above and I advices you to do the same. And if you did, let me know what you think (comment below please)!
Why I also can't write about it now is because of my daily worry about our planet. It feels a bit silly to make statements about our past if we should really focus on our future right now.
So before I will write about our stuff filled Colonial past, with in mind that Museums show us now that our past was filled with beautifully crafted masterpieces from abroad, but leave out the costs. Not only the costs on people, but also the cost on nature. If we don't want to talk about our crimes against humanity, can we then maybe share what we did (and are doing) to nature? How our greed changed landscapes, whole islands in order to get the spices, textiles and wooden furniture we longed for in Europe. And that this trend hasn't stopped since?

So instead of dealing with old stuff: How to deal with our stuff in the present and the nearby future? How to deal with our need for new stuff, cheap stuff, mass production stuff and thrown away stuff.
In my previous post about the Dutch Design Week I already wrote about stuff, a lot, and about the question when designers (and artists) stop doing projects based on Save-the-world-stuff and start making it a daily ritual.

In this post some nice examples of dealing with stuff in a "There is a future"- kind of way.
First: Handcrafted, traditional crafted merchandise as opposed to massmassmassproduced merchandise. Populo Batik*, a Jakarta based Batik shop, made a series of products for the Star Wars fans while mixing in traditional Indonesian cultural handicrafts. In their theme-store you can buy black & white hand-stamped (Batik Cap) patterns of Yoda, stars and 'May the force be with you' on shirts, hoodies and kimonos. On Instagram they shared also Darth Vader & Stormtrooper Javanese hand-painted wooden masks.** Brilliant!
It makes me happy to see that entrepreneurs are looking for ways to honour traditions while indulging in popular culture and try to do this in an earth-friendly way. And I'm pleasantly surprised that it is Batik they do this with!! Inspiring stuff Populo Batik! Wish I could pop in the shop!! If you are near Jakarta, make sure to check it out!

Opening of Populo Batik Star wars Store, photo from Facebook

From Instagram

Opening of Populo Batik Star wars Store, Photo from Facebook

From Instagram

Second: Educating Fashion victims about the true nature of their addiction. In the Temporary Fashion Museum you walk through a maze of nicely selected vintage, experimental garments and a killerheel selfiebooth. Fashion is the name, and it is shown in all its colours. In all its colours, you may wonder...Well yes, there is even room, a whole floor, about our wasteful lifestyle and it is so nicely brought that while admiring the colourful carpets being knitted, your conscience can nicely creep up on you. For the installation 'Fashion Machine' countless fleece sweaters were cut up and the polyethylene yarn put on spools again.*** In the video below you see a short impression of that process. But what they don't mention on the website of Het Nieuwe Instituut is the video shown next to this one. In the video you see piles and piles of clothing, our thrown away clothes, getting shipped to India were they get a similar treatment like the sweaters in the 'Fashion Machine'. The women in the video share their theories about western women based on our waste. One of my favorite ones was that water must be very expensive in Europe, because most clothing is still new and hasn't been washed once. Next to these thoughts on "western civilization" you see beautiful women dressed in sari's cutting, ripping, pilling up & stripping our clothing. After 4 or 5 steps in which in different places the clothing gets transformed into this grayish dust-like mass, they spin yarn from it. From this yarn blankets are made, the grey blankets you can buy at hardware-stores, and shipped back to where the clothing first came from, us...
This whole process is a very scary & crazy process and I'm happy that Het Nieuwe Instituut shows with the Temporary Fashion Museum not only the glitter & glamour, but the Art, the Craft and the Waste!

Threads made from sweaters, 
part of the 'Fashion Machine' at  the Temporary Fashion Museum

Knitting with the sweater-yarn, 
part of the 'Fashion Machine' at  the Temporary Fashion Museum

And the last & third: Using waste to address waste. Contemplating our future and how we could ever achieve a way of living without producing waste, trash & garbage, this temporary carpet by Leo Fitzmaurice brightened my week.**** The work from already 10 years ago address our wasteful behavior in a very nice way. Don't know if it was the plan behind this work, but it works very well.*****

'I Knew You All Along', made from leftover flyers, 
2005, by Leo Fitzmaurice

Wished I made this...few weeks back I made a 'partypack' with garlands, confetti and toothpicks with flags in honor of 25 year celebration of IDFX from their old, leftover flyers. It's on display from 17 December till 9 January at IDFX in Breda (NL). Hope I inspired you with this post to think about your stuff. Not only the stuff you own,  but also the stuff you are going to throw away, want-to-buy or get with Christmas!

'IDFX Partypack', made from leftover flyers of their events
2015, by me

* Website of Populo Batik
** Instagram page of Populo Batik
***
**** Saw it on 
***** More about Leo Fitzmaurice work on

November 20, 2015

Re-ing is the new designing

But I still feel we are creating too much stuff. 

Couldn't enjoy this years Dutch Design Week. Finally got a blogger-pass, but was in the middle of moving. New city, small home...and a lot of stuff. Last 30 years (turned 31 on 2th of October, so that's just weeks now) flashed by in the form of nick-nacks, newspaper articles (both about me and my interests) and notebooks (which in style and layout apparently didn't change that much). I felt quite depressed while packing my stuff. Not that the last 30 years were not good and fun. They were good and fun. Not all of it, but most of it. It felt depressing because I did so much and have so much,  and yet it never feels like enough...interesting...
This leads me to our stuff problem. What do artists and designers do?
We make stuff!
And what are you going to make when there is already enough stuff? 
We make more stuff!
We are at an interesting point in time. We realize we have to much stuff, we have some solutions, but we still crave stuff. We made consumption our new religion and buying our new ritual of worshipping.*
We know we should make, buy, want less stuff, but that's tough because what are we going to sell, buy and want?
The 'talk' in Tegenlicht this week with the misleading title "Einde van bezit"/ "End of possessing"** (it's not about not having, it is about thinking different about what you have: Do you want a lamp or light? Keep your food fresh or a refrigerator?) made me happy to see creatives are making projects with this subject. But when is it going to stop being projects and start being just, well, just life!
That's why the Dutch Design Week didn't make me happy this year.
I was still surrounded with stuff. Old stuff made new, trash made into stuff and stuff changed into other stuff. If you're surrounded with boxes at home filled with your stuff, you really don't want stuff for a while. 
In my own work I chose 8 years ago that I wanted to create (shared) experiences and that my audience could only own the memory. But this is also a work in progress. I'm moving out of my studio next month and I still managed to create a lot of stuff while making temporary installations. So the circle is not round yet, but there is a start.
And that start is also made in the design world, now we just have to start living it! So continue with the re-ing: Reuse, reduce, recycle, redesign and rethink!

'We somehow have to act like there is going to be a future'
- Brian Eno in 'Einde van bezit'**

'Kassiewijle' by Visser & Meijwaard (flowers by Linda Nieuwstad) at TAC

Newshirt by Jetty van Wezel
Mmm looks familiar...

is a collaboration of Het Ambachtshuis Brabant, Pandor, Studio Jo Meesters with secondhand shops. Apparently 53% of what comes in a secondhand shop doesn't find a second home. By redesigning or up-cycling objects using different crafts, they have a better chance of being bought. 

'Skateboarding Geisha' by Milligan Beaumont

'It's your world' exhibition at Klokgebouw

'Secret garden is a herbarium mirror, it offers you a version of the self filtered by a vegetal layer.'

Using DDW trash to make stuff

'It's your world' exhibition at Klokgebouw

Using DDW trash to make stuff part 2

Loved this project!! Pet it, keeping mycelium as a pet. With toys in which your mycelium can grow & explore. Wanted one, but already have a pet

What drives us to collective [ir]rationality? Was the question MU & KNOL asked themselves, while we walked into a maze like swarms or shoals. Note: I walked straight into a dead end, acted if I was taking pictures till I spotted other visitors and followed them haha

Spotted this poster and think it is amazing, but couldn't find the designer

For More:
* Watch 'Story of Stuff' on YouTube
** Watch 'Einde van bezit' on NPO (in Dutch)
*** I missed Bas Kosters coat project on DDW, but you can see his video on YouTube

October 2, 2015

We Can Do It!

Dear readers,

Today should be a day of celebration for me, but with everything going on, it is tough to just eat pie & wear Batik. So my Statement for today is not just to celebrate Batik day, which they nicely celebrate on my birthday, but a little more.
I want to make a superhero tribute with my following Batik Statements, here is the first one: We Can Do It!

We Can Do It! We can welcome people that need our help. We took so much, from so many cultures, we can take them in and add another culture to the mix. We need to welcome this and hope that if we ever need someones help we can count on it.

We Can Do It! We can stop climate change! We just need to work really really hard and really really make sure that everyone pitches in. Stop discussing about it, just do it!

We Can Do It! We can have equal rights! For everybody! We are the same in all our differences, diversity is a blessing, so let's celebrate it!

We Can Do It! We can be one! We only have one planet, so let us enjoy it, celebrate life and protect it!

We Can Do It! Let's start today!

This tribute is based on the American wartime propaganda"We Can Do It!" poster produced by J. Howard Miller in 1943 for Westinghouse Electric as an inspirational image to boost worker morale. 
For this statement I'm wearing my grandfathers Batik blouse, a traditional Dutch headscarf from Staphorst in front of a Banana wax print by African Textiles. Three different cultures, my roots and history, combined into one. 

October 1, 2015

Batik Statements from around the world

Batik Statements by Ine WawoRuntu

The fourth Batik Statement I received was in 2012 from Ine WawoRuntu*. A lovely group-photo of the members of the Stichting Hibiscus in traditional Javanese wear at Imogiri, Yogyakarta in Indonesia.
Ine WawoRuntu is inspirational women. She runs Stichting Hibiscus, a foundation that helps schools in Indonesia by building bathrooms, funding books, other school-materials and much more. She organizes lovely events to promote Indonesian culture in the Netherlands and is a big supporter of Batik. 
She always brightens Social Media up with pictures of her wearing Batik. Her Batik Statements are made globally. So to celebrate Batik Day I got a little selection of Batik Statements made by Ine. She is wearing Batik blouses, shirts, jackets, sarong or bags in places like Jakarta, Lisabon, Best (NL), Copenhagen, London, Las Vegas and with Queensday. enjoy & get inspired!

"I wear Batik because I think it is beautiful. I also wear Batik because I'm proud of it. Batik is from Indonesia and from 2009 is the official Unesco Cultural Heritage from Indonesia. That makes wearing Batik even more fun. And because I want to contribute in promoting Indonesian culture. I love wearing Batik in every country I visit and I wear Batik in Indonesia. That is important, because we should be proud of Batik and shouldn't hesitate to wear it all the time."
- Ine WawoRuntu

Thank you Ine for supporting Batik! I wish you and everyone a happy Batik Day!
And don't forget to put on some Batik!

Batik Statement in Jakarta, boys are wearing Batik Pekalongan, 
Ine is wearing Batik from design house 'Putri Malu' in Yogyakarta

Batik Statement in Lisabon

Batik Statement in Jakarta, Ine is wearing Batik Encim from Pekalongan

Batik Statement in Abu Dhabi

Batik Statement in Vatican City

*  See blogpost Batik Statement IV

August 24, 2015


Impression of the Japanese market in Leiden

Inge Timan & Koen de Wit at the exhibition Silk Splendour

On 24 May we went to the Japanese Market in Leiden. The Japanmuseum SieboldHuis organizes this event on the street in front of the museum. My lover Koen and my good friend Inge Timan are both big fans of Japanese culture (the way I'm a very big fan of Indonesian culture) so it sounded like the perfect day to spend together. 
Through the very busy street, we first made our way to the museum. A special exhibition was being held showing 16 kimonos by Itchiku Kubota (1917-2003). I didn't know about this legend, but when we entered the room, we knew immediately. 
The room was filled with huge kimonos that were of a vague pastel colour, yet they sparkled vibrantly. In the kimonos landscapes were being revealed of setting suns and snowy mountains. The colours and texture make patterns of leaves, flowers, rivers, snowflakes and birds.
A depth in layers, zooming in, and in, and in.
The pastel colour fading showed that it was a kind of tie dye technique. But with so many colours and  with an amazing variety and purity of colour.

Dazzled by the technique of these wonderful pieces, we watched a short film about the making of it in the exhibition. In the video below 'Kimono As Art' you see how Itchiku Kubota got inspired to make these works. He first got introduced to Tsujigahana when he saw a cloth made with this technique from the 16th century when he was twenty. “My heart was beating faster; I was moved, trembling and fascinated in the face of such mastery and refinement of beauty. For over three hours I remained transfixed there in the deserted museum hall contemplating this little fragment of fabric which seemed to have been on display in the showcase for me alone.”
But many things happened before he could finally make the extinct technique his own. He start reviving and rewriting the textile dyeing Tsujigahana in his own way. There was no other way, because the art form wasn't practiced anymore. From age 43 till 60 he worked on unveiling the mystery of Tsujigahana. How could he get the fine grey-blurry line that defines a true Tsujigahana?
His queste to make this technique his own, and to make it live on, is inspiring and admirable.
In the first part of the video below (at 4min) you get a glimpse of how the fabric is turned into an artwork by sewing, knotting, wrapping and dyeing. He laughs about his impatient character and how he could ever thought of choosing this specific, detailed, long processed technique.
With up to 30 different dyes to make his landscapes he talks not about the way or the how long, but the importance of sharing a story with an audience. He experienced the most beautiful thing he ever saw in the most awful period in his life. He says in the video: "I want my textiles to tell a story". What this story is, he doesn't share, but I think he wants to tells us about hope, perseverance and following your dreams. Maybe they sound like a pile of cliches, but when someone makes these works at the ago of 80 with the plan to create 80 pieces in total, getting all wound up because his key piece in his exhibition in Washington is put into a corner, you just hope you can achieve a little of what he have done or at least enjoy beauty even when things are getting tough.

After the great exhibition at the SieboldHuis we went outside to see the market. The goodies weren't that impressive, but the visitors: Sugoi! First photo-collage of this post is a little overview of the day. A lot of people were wearing kimono's, but also a few Japanese Lolita's were showing of their lace & bows. We wanted everything and nothing at the stalls and only bought sushi, which was freshly made in front of us and was super good!
So we will definitely visit the Japanese market again next time!

More about Itchiku Kubota and his wonderful collection on
More about the Janpanmuseum SieboldHuis on

Before ending this post, I want to share one more thing!
My friend Inge Timan who I mentioned earlier in this post is not only a big fan of Japan, but also a very talented artist. She will be giving a Shibori workshop at the lovely Camera Japan Festival 2015 on Saturday the 26th of September. Shibori is a tie-dyeing technique and forms the base for Itchiku Kubota's Tsujigahana. So a perfect way to get an introduction in the wonderful world of Japanese textiles dyeing!

More about Camera Japan Festival on
More about Inge Timan on

* blogpost title "テキスタイル" is Japanese for "Textile"

May 31, 2015

Batik Statement Fashionshow II

Photo used in the news online
Photo by Peter van Hoek

Backstage ready for the show, photo by me

On Sunday 17 May I gave a second Batik Statement Fashionshow. It was two year ago that I was invited by the same organization of Festival Budaya where I made my first fashionshow, the Batik Statement Fashionshow. A lot has happend in that short period of time, and it was so nice to prepare a new show again. My love for Batik keeps on growing and when Vlisco is making posts about their heritage with Batik, believe me, Batik is becoming trendy! So the perfect moment to make a Batik Statement! 
I was lucky to borrow some nice Batiks from Marlisa, most of which are being sold at Taman Indonesia, and have her as an extra model. We shared a stall that day showing our love for Batik and selling some Batik products. And I'm looking forward continuing that!
In December I got a sewing machine so I made a lot of new Batik bows with matching Bintang bottle-cap earrings, which you can spot on the models. But I also made two t-shirts, one with 'KARTINI' and one with 'CARP'. These two ladies represent for me the empowerment of Batik and had to be presented at this show. I thought it would be a nice idea showing them as a brandname, making the letters out of Batik-fabric. A nice experiment and it was noticed by people in the audience, who complimented me on it later, so something to continue working on.
For the actual wrapping of the Batik Statements I used some classics and ones I used before. For my 'grand piece' that Marlisa was wearing I used 5 Batiks. I really want to experiment more with that, wrapping layer over layer, so lets see what kind of statements I make for the next fashionshow.

Wednesday I visited the Tong Tong Fair looking for Batik and portraying men wearing batik blouses. I was yet again disappointed about the lack of real batik (with real Batik I mean Batik Tulis, made with canting or cap). Every stall was filled with printed batiks, except one (Rumah Batik Koe, at the Indonesia Paviljoen, lovely batik sarong & clothing). And of the people wearing batik, only a few wore handmade Batik.
Feeling bummed out about this, I got the nicest surprise when I got home and checked my social media. I was thanked by a very talented Batik entrepreneur. "Really appreciate your continuous support to promote batik Indonesia in Netherlands. I'm very happy to read the news. Thank you so much Sabine...". My Batik Statement Fashionshow somehow reached the Indonesian news. The article "Ketika Noni-noni Belanda Lenggak-lenggok Berbatik" writes about the show in detail and mentioned that Batik is being used as a nice summer outfit in the Netherlands. It was and is still such a nice surprise and it makes me really happy that I can show people here and in Indonesia that we need to support and above all enjoy Batik. And keep up the good work! I'm proud of all the Batikmakers in Indonesia who continue making Batik Tulis and I hope I can help a little in that proces.

I gathered and selected the photos made of the Batik Statement Fashion in Best (NL). Thanks photographers for sharing them! And what you can not see on the photos is that the music was performed live by Chanelsy Moniharapon. He gave the models a nice percussion beat to walk on, thanks again for that!
Enjoy the Batik Statement Fashionshow II!

Photo by Arie van der Spoel

Photo by Peter van Hoek

Model is wearing KARTINI-shirt 
(freedomfighter and Batikmaker Raden Adjeng Kartini, (1879 – 1904), Batik origami brooch, headwrap by The wrap Life & Batik bow
Photo by Yola Vandergunst

Photo by Yola Vandergunst

Photo by Yola Vandergunst

Photo by Arie van der Spoel

Model is wearing CARP-shirt
(Batikmaker Maria Paulina Carp (1860 - 1897)
Photo by Yola Vandergunst

Marlisa is wearing a layered Batik Statement made out of 5 Batiks
Photo by Arie van der Spoel

Photo by Yola Vandergunst

Photo by Arie van der Spoel

Photo by Arie van der Spoel

Photo by Arie van der Spoel

Photo by Arie van der Spoel

Photo by Arie van der Spoel

Reference to and to read more:

- Article "Ketika Noni-noni Belanda Lenggak-lenggok Berbatik" on
- First Batik Statement Fashionshow on 21 April 2013 
- Post by Vlisco about Batik, "Travel back in time with us, Our Heritage" on
- Post on De reis naar Batik about printed Batiks and how to recognize a real Batik, 'The real deal'
- Post on De reis naar Batik about Raden Adjeng kartini, 'Hari Kartini
- Post on De reis naar Batik about Maria Paulina Carp, 'Give honor to whom it’s due